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's an important scene in the game that takes place on a u.s. aircraft carrier, and that's named the "uss barack obama." and the u.s. defense secretary meeting on the flight deck with the commander of the u.s. aircraft carrier obama is the american defense secretary, who in the game is named david petraeus. before this week it probably was not a bad bet in video game land that in 13 years a then 73-year-old david petraeus might be defense secretary, but now today that is a rather bad bet. it means that this video game someday in the future will be unearthed with the same glee and disbelief that accompanied the discovery of the old dating game footage of a future michigan governor, jennifer granholm. president obama was sworn into office as president. at the end of january 2009, just over 100 days after that, less than four months after he was sworn in, the new president did something absolutely remarkable. something that had not been done in more than 50 years. the new president fired the man in charge of the war. >> president obama has said that the war in afghanistan is one the u.s. must win.
. prepping for the president's big trip that starts tomorrow. he's going to asia tomorrow. no sitting u.s. president has ever visited the nation of cambodia before, but president obama is about to do so. no sitting u.s. president has ever visited burma, either. but president obama is about to go there too. no president has ever done that. when he's there, he will meet with the opposition leader. aung san suu kyi. while he's there. one interesting side note on president obama making this historic trim to burma. which is also called myanmar. in 2009, before the u.s. government decided that they were ready to send a sitting president to that country, we apparently first decided that we were ready to send a rock band to that comprehend. specifically the band ozo motley. the state department under a brand new president obama in 2009 authorized the great l.a. latin fusion band to go tour burma. a sort of ambassadors for u.s. culture in that notoriously closed off authoritarian part of the world. burma has only finally ended military rule there as of last year. after president obama makes his vi
arafat. in 1978, u.s. president jimmy carter helped to broker the peace accords between saadat of egypt and prime minister ba begin of israel which paved the way for the 1979 peace treaty between those two countries. the lalt '80s saw the formation of hamas in the west bank and gaza erasing hopes. the oslo accords signed -- establishing recognition of each side between israel and the plo. years of talks followed and marred by disagreement. mahmoud abbas is elected as arafat's successor by the palestinian people. in the same year, israel withdraws from all settlements in gaz in. hamas then wins big in the elections sending a ripple of worry around the world. since then, the back and forth continued with no definitive end to the conflict. let's be clear, this cribbed version of history doesn't begin to explore the complexity. in fact, i sort of picked and chose which moments of the timeline to highlight, which sa i controversial approach to the story of the middle east. even the starting point that i chose can be deemed controversial. others may begin at britain's involvement or in the 19
, how much play is this getting over in london where you are? >> it's global fascination with the u.s. focused on this issue. they listen to what we say to each other and what we think is important. they're listening with some sense of whimsy with what we're up to. >> general, thank you so much. >>> and speaking of the fbi investigation, i guess, who on capitol hill should have been told, defense secretary leon panetta was asked about that this morning. >> that's another issue that we got to look at. as former director of cia and having worked very closely with the intelligence committees, you know, i believe that there's a responsibility to make sure that the intelligence committees are informed of issues that could affect, you know, the security of those intelligence operations. >> both mike rogers, they're going to press the cia over the time line of the investigation. >> we have rules and laws that specify when you kick these matters up the command chain. we'll find out if those rules were violated. looking at the fbi part of the investigation, if you're the superior of the guy wh
, of course, is the current u.s. commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials described as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more on this ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa socialite jill kelley and petraeus biographer paul broadwell ensnared not only petraeus but his successor. john allen who took over from petraeus in afghanistan and is the president's choice to be supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe, a nomination now temporarily on hold. >> sweetheart, thank you for all that you have done for me and for our precious -- >> reporter: the general is married with a sterling record but on a flight to australia monday night aides to defense secretary leon panetta said there was a dramatic turn in the case. fbi investigators uncovered potentially inappropriate communications between the general and jill kelley, whom he and his wife got to know in t
. whoever packs president obama's bags is busy. he's going to asia tomorrow. no sitting u.s. president has ever visited the nation of cambodia before, but president obama is about to do so. no sitting president has visited burma either. but president obama is about to go there too. no president has ever done that. when he's there, he will meet with the opposition leader. what is the side note of this historic trip to burma? before the u.s. government decided to send a president to the country, we first decided we were ready to send a rock band to that country. the state department under a brand new president obama in 2009 authorized the great l.a. latin fusion band to go tour burma. a sort of ambassadors for u.s. culture in that part of the world. burma has only finally ended military rule there as of last year. after president obama makes his visit there this weekend, we have now learned we're going to be sending another american musical act to follow up the president's trip. this time it's jason mraz. he's scheduled to play a gig december 16th. he's going to be playing outdoors free of c
a million new u.s. military members are expected to transition back into civilian life. they will join the more than 22 million veterans living across this country whose service truly defines the american spirit. on this veterans day holiday, may we pay humble tribute to the men and women who have served this great nation with honor and distinction. stay with us. much more ahead. [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> from honoring our vets and the cia sex scandal to the republican rebranding effort. here are today's "top lines." >> on the 11th day of the 11th month we pause as a nation and as a people to pay tribute to you. long after our heroes come home,
that vacancy at the cia has also now touched the current top u.s. commanding general in afghanistan, whose successor for that job is due to have his confirmation hearings in washington tomorrow. well, today at his first post-re-election press conference, the president largely deflected questions about who he would be appointing to all the top jobs in the administration for his second term. he deflected those questions today with one notable exception. one notable exception that just about took the roof off that room today. did you see this? >> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham both said today that they want to have watergate-style hearings on the attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi. and that if you nominate susan rice for secretary of state, they will do everything in their power to block her nomination. as senator graham said, he simply doesn't trust ambassador rice after what she said about benghazi. i would like your reaction to that and would those threats deter from making a nomination like that? >> first of all, i'm not going to comment at this point on various nomi
will likely go to susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. still rice would likely face a tough nomination process after initially mischaracterizing the deadly bengahzi attacks as a protest gone wrong. >>> the president's chief counterterroism adviser, john brennan, is seen as a potential top contender to replace general petraeus at the cia. officials said the cabinet talks are already in the early phases and no decisions have been made. >>> congress returns to capitol hill today with seven weeks left to fix a fiscal cliff deal. they remain at odds on how to get to the deal. on friday president obama will sit down with congressional leaders to work on a compromise plan. but before official negotiations get underway, the president will meet with influential labor and business leaders and also going to try to discuss how they think we should control the deficit. labor leaders help president obama win re-election and they are expected to make a hard push that any deals keep entitlement programs intact. >>> there is a major shakeup at a tech giant this morning. the head of microsoft is leaving
director david petraeus. general john allen is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan. officials are investigating him for, quote, inappropriate communication with jill kel kelley. she's the woman that got the petraeus investigation started. the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general petraeus. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details on this case over the last few days. michael, first, thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> now, let me ask, general allen is now under investigation for his relationship with jill kelley. what can you tell us about the relationship and what can you tell us about miss kelley. >> we should say we don't know for sure. as you pointed out, the e-mails, these voluminous -- apparently voluminous e-mails d
? >> law enforcement and multiple u.s. paula broadwell, his biographer were indicative of an extramarital affair. . >> really? e-mail? all they had to do to have america's general is to log on to his e-mail? any way we can intrigue that little sound bite up a bit? multiple law enforcement officials tell us e-mails between him and paula broadwell, his biographer were indicative of an extramarital affair. >> how exciting. >> good morning. it is tuesday, november 13th. welcome to "morning joe." with us onset, we have national affairs editor for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst john heilemann. msnbc political analyst mark haleprin, and the author of a new book "thomas jefferson: the art of power," jon meacham. >> who never e-mailed anyone. >> are you sure? >> actually, no. >> best-selling, that thing skyrocketed -- >> the fbi is looking into monticello e-mail. >> thomas jefferson, the randy bugger. >> by the way, heilemann is the national affairs writer for -- >> yes. >> this is going to be a long show. >> by the way -- >> growth industry. >> in the line of booty, "new york daily
still has faith in john allen, the current u.s. commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials describe as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell, has more on an ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa socialite jill kelley and petraeus biographer and former mistress paula broadwell ensnared not only petraeus but his successor. marine general john allen who took over from petraeus in afghanistan and is the president's choice to be supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe, a nomination now temporarily on hold. >> thank you for all that you have done, for me and for our precious daughters. >> reporter: the general is married with a sterling record. but on a flight to australia monday night, aides to defense secretary leon panetta disclosed a dramatic turn in the petraeus case. fbi investigators had uncovered what the pentagon called potentially inappropriate commun
of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour. every hour there are new allegations as pertains to genera
isikoff michael? >> what we learned last night, general allen, the u.s. commander in afghanistan has been implicated in this because of 20,000 to 30,000 documents exchanged with jill kelley. the tampa associatite who triggered this investigation when she complained about those menacing e-mails that she had been getting from an anonymous sourt who turned out to be paula broadwell, the woman who was having the affair with cia director david petraeus. what we were being told that the original e-mails, these anonymous e-mails from broadwell to kelley did not initially specifically reference petraeus, it talked about her, kelley's relationship with other generals at the u.s. central command. and southern command, suggesting that she was having an inappropriate relationship with them, that she ought to watch it and cut it out, as described to me from a source. we know that general allen who's now the center of this was the deputy command at central command until 2010. so, by implication, we can assume from the beginning, at least when paula broadwell began sending these e-mails she knew somethi
cuomo and governor bloomberg. and there are two closed door meetings on the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. one is taking place with the house intelligence committee and the the other with the house foreign affairs committee. there are new developments on the david petraeus front. testimony from members of congress will be happening. the general is set to brief the house intelligence committee tomorrow and likely the senate intelligence committee as well. now the defense secretary leon panetta came out ordering an investigation of legal and ethical issues among military leaders. the president giving his first remarks yesterday on the scandal that prompted the president to resign. >> we're safer because of the work that dpaifdetraeus has done, and my main hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on. and that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. >> the president also took leading republicans to task for attacks on the ambassador susan rice and comments she made just days after the deaths of four amer
quickly enough as something of this magnitude to lose a u.s. ambassador and three americans on an assault in consulate. we expect a lot of attention around david patreaus here early to visit with the house and intelligence committees. there has been concern not creating a spectacle because of the attention surrounding david patreaus now. and so there's been a bit of discussion about how the committees want to protect him. they want to hear from him but don't want to create a distraction that goes beyond his purpose for coming which is to talk about what he knew as cia director his trip to libya to investigation. there's a lot happening here in a sense of things moving forward after weeks surrounding the election period, when people were away when answers weren't coming. there's a new critical mass shining a light to get answers. >> speaking of shining a lot, the defense secretary leon panetta announced they'll have an ethics review to see if there should be better ethics training of top generals because of a number of lapses, not just these, a couple incidents that involve personal behavi
went to all-out war there would be significant israeli losses. >> all right, general, would the u.s. get involved militarily if this does escalate? >> i don't think so. i think the iranians would be loathe to actually start firing their long-range missiles at israel. if they did that would be the ultimate red line and we would get engaged. my guess is they're going to cap this in one way or the other. clearly the provocation is coming out of hamas. and they are insensitive to their own civilian casualties. so it's a very tricky situation. but i think they back off at some point. >> you bring up iran. it has been suggested that hamas is triggering all of this back and forth try to divert attention to iran's nuclear program. does that make sense to you at all? >> yes. although i think there's a terrible malignancy in the gaza strip in the west bank and the hatreds that have been generated are literally multigenerational. that's independent. but i think the iranians have manipulated particularly hezbollah but also hamas. they've equipped them with significant amounts of rocketry. one o
the u.s. gives to foreign development assistance programs. >>> we know president obama is a big fan of homeland. turns out the show's star was trying to be funny when he signed a dvd for the commander in chief with the phrase, from one muslim to another. >>> and "saturday night live" showed us what the romney house looked like right after he lost on election night. >> come inside, father. >> in a moment, tagg, in a moment. >> father? >> tagg, i thought i told you to give me a moment. >> i'm not tagg, i'm matt. one of your other sons. >> oh, of course, of course, of course. hello, matt. >> mother sent me to come get you, father. paul ryan is doing feats of strength in the drawing room. she'd like you to see. >> i'd like to see him carry wisconsin! >>> and my must-read today is about a disease largely affecting 20-somethings who spend much of their days locked in a fear of missing out. it's the subject of a "daily beast" article on our facebook page. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] some day, your life will flash before your eyes. ♪ make it worth watching. ♪ the new 2013 lexus ls. an en
it in chicago the morning after traditionally when this is done. >> or even thursday. >> or even thursday u.s. exactly. >> although by thursday his national security team knew and was about to inform him about the petraeus possible resignation. >> all the reason they wanted to delay. >> let's talk for a moment first about the fiscal cliff. the business leaders who came in following, of course, the labor leaders and others who came in yesterday to talk about the bargaining and the terms of reference, what did he hear from the business community about what bargains points he should be making and how important it is or isn't to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> the business community wants certainty. that's what they care more about anything else. they want certainty. the question is going to be how much of an ally can they be to the president. he has a specific goal he has in mind. decoupling the bush tax rates if you will, for the wealthy, 250 for couples and above and everybody else. it's a bill that's already passed the senate. the president wants to get that enacted into law and then have the disc
foreign affairs committee's hearing on the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, and in the house and senate and intelligence committees but those are both closed to the public. we learned today newly resigned cia chief david petraeus agreed to testify at a closed intelligence committee hearing tomorrow and maybe a closed house hearing, too. in his first remarks to a reporter since he resigned, general petraeus told kyra phillips from "headline news" his resignation had strictly to do with the affair and not related to benghazi. he told kyra phillips he's eager to testify in congress about the benghazi relationship to clear that up. that's related presumably to the conspiracy theories of general petraeus' resignation that are populating the conservative media. quote, it's obvious someone was out to silence petraeus. quote, in the modern era, office holders with forgiving spouses simply do not resign from powerful jobs because of a temporary noncriminal consensual adult sexual liaison. said elliot spitzer. i mean, anthony weiner. i mean, jim mccgreavy. none of the
for the u.s. department of state p.j. crowley. thanks for being with us. how serious will this conflict become from what you've seen here? >> we know it can become very serious. we've had these experiences in the past. you know, some handled at a relatively modest level of violence but obviously we've had a serious incursion by israel into gaza before in response to just these kinds of barrage of rocket attacks. so this could escalate. >> do you see it as a repeat of 2008-2009? >> i mean, on the ground potentially, but obviously there are different reasons here. you know, on the one hand you have a dramatically different landscape. you have a new normal in the middle east in the aftermath of the arab spring and you're seeing very different politics play out here in terms of what hamas is trying to do. you've got a civil war next door in syria. you have a different government in egypt and the morrisey government is reacting differently than perhaps the mubarak government did before. >> what's the short-term solution then? >> well, i think the danger for israel for example, it has a right
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these things out. thanks, chuck. chuck todd at the white house. >>> now joining us is u.s. congressman james clyburn from south carolina, member of the house leadership. let's talk about the real politics of equity, fairness, real democratic values, congressman. you're in the leadership. you're going to make the call. does the president have to win -- i think he has to -- does he have to win on making sure the wealthy of this country get back to paying what they paid under clinton? >> absolutely. he's just absolutely got to win that. and i think he will win that. but let me say, chris, thank you so much for having me. may i say something about susan rice? >> sure. >> i have a real, real problem with my senior senator trying to make her a scapegoat in this. susan rice's roots are in florence, south carolina, that i got the opportunity to serve for almost 20 years in the congress. her father, who -- emmitt, born in florence, didn't leave there until he was 16 years old, i've been a close friend of his over the years. i'm a close friend of susan rice. i think it's absolutely a shame for this yo
star general investigated. this time it is general john allen who took over as commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan and petraeus became director of the cia. in october, allen was also nominated by the president to be the supreme allied commander in europe, but the white house put that nomination on hold after it found out that allen is currently being investigated by the defense department for sending potentially inappropriate and flirtatious e-mails to jill kelley, the same jill kelley who received questionable e-mails from paula broadwell. the fbi's investigation into those e-mails eventually revealed broadwell's affair with general petraeus which eventually led to petraeus' resignation. remember her fbi friend that started the investigation? turns out he was also the person who called house majority leader eric cantor and told him what he knew. one more character connecting petraeus and allen in this messy web, jill's twin sister natalie, just weeks ago both generals wrote letters in support of natalie in a custody battle over her four-year-old son. "the washington post" i
and hawaii all elected women to the u.s. senate for the first time in their history, including the first asian american woman in the history of the senate. it wasn't just advocacy organizations like emily's list helping to make this happen. there were a few particular men who were a big help, too. men like congressman todd akin, the republican candidate for senate. who voiced his belief about our magical female bodies not being able to get pregnant from rape. you know when it's legitimate. he lost by 16 points. men like richard mourdock believed allowed that it's god's will. he was defeated by his opponent on tuesday. and men like congressman joe walsh of illinois who stated that modern science and technology that abortion exceptions for the health of the mother were now unnecessary. congressman walsh took a big fat l on tuesday by ten points to his challenger, tammy duckworth. jessica val ent i wrote that it may be women that don't like talking about how personally these issues affect their lives were not afraid to be loud in the voting booth. joining me again are richard kim, maya wily
the u.s. away from fiscal catastrophe. >>> in office politics. eugene robinson on one thing that did not factor into tuesday's election. between day, everyone. welcome to weekends with alex whitt. we begin with new details on what precipitated the end of the storied military career. we now know what started an fbi investigation that ended in general petraeus' abrupt resignation. it all started with complaints to the fbi about harassing e-mails sent from this woman, paula broadwell, to the another unnamed woman. petraeus was not the focus of investigators, but that led them to other e-mails between petraeus and broadwell which officials tell nbc news were indicative of an extramarital affair. the general admitted to an extramarital affair in his resignation letter. meanwhile we're now hearing from petraeus' former spokesperson. he talked to kristen welker. she's in washington with more. >> i interviewed steven boylan by phone saturday. he called petraeus a mentor and friend. boylan says he's stunned by the news about his former boss. in the meantime, new details are emerging about how
allen, the commander of u.s. and nato troops in afghanistan and petraeus' successor in that position, has been having an e-mail relationship with jill kelley. the fbi uncovers somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents that contain, quote, potentially inappropriate communication between allen and kelley, one senior u.s. defense official tells the "washington post." "the post" also reports that allen received at least one e-mail that talks about kelley from an unidentified account that was traced to none other than paula broadwell. well, there you have it. you're investigating this. i tried to explain this, and i'm trying not to be light-hearted, but there's such an aspect to this story rather well below the importance of the positions these men hold. one of them being, of course, our commander in afghanistan. the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and wouldn't be if these weren't the people involved. your thoughts about how -- fill it in as the reporter.
on a day that could not have been a bigger news day any way, today the u.s. supreme court announced that they are going to hear a challenge to the voting rights act. the lead plaintiff in the case is shelby county, alabama. just outside birmingham. they would like the special scrutiny to go away. joining me is the acting president and direct council of the legal defense fund. thank you for joining us tonight. >> it's good to be with you. >> you defended the voting rights act the last time it was challenged in 2009. how serious a threat does this case pose? >> it's a serious threat. any time a core statue is before the supreme court, we need to wake up and focus on it. so we're not happy that the case is back there. we don't think it needed to be there. but we're prepared to defend it as we have successfully in the past. >> is the -- am i right to describe the voting rights act as sort of maximum point of federal leverage over whether or not the states do right in administering our elections? >> i think it's really a core protection. it's a fundamental piece of the whole civil rights
to the scandal, marine general john allen, the top american and nato commander in afghanistan. according to a u.s. senior defense official the fbi uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of e-mails between the general and jill kelley. now kelley is the woman whose initial complaint to the fbi led to the discovery of evidence about the affair between general petraeus and his biographer paula broadwell. defense secretary panetta's comments on the scandal and his future in the obama administration. then there's the fbi agent and friend of jill kel yae's. he's now subject of an internal fbi probe himself for inappropriate behavior. let's get into the details. overnight the pentagon announced this, that general allen's nomination to be allied supreme commander over all of anywnato been delayed and panetta has asked them to ex pa diet joseph dunfer. >> while this matter is under investigation and before the facts are determined, general allen will remain commander. general allen is entitled to due process in this matter. in the meantime the secretary has asked the president, and the president has agr
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talk about her relationship with generals at the u.s. central command and u.s. special operations command. according to a source presumably we can assume one of those was general allen. >> and these harassing e-mails, we have confirmed, and all sides have confirmed, they came from paula broadwell? >> the fbi was able to trace them back, although they were sent through anonymous accounts, they were able to trace them back to paula broadwell. i do think, and this is interesting, what you're talking to pete about, the fbi's role here, the revelations of the last 24 hours are probably going to intensify the questions that congress is going to have about the way fbi, the way fbi handled this last -- the last couple days we're being told the fbi just happened to wrap up the case the week before the election. it did the final interviews with david petraeus and paula broadwell. that last week. just a few days before the election and then they wrap up the case and tell james clapper. now, it turns out, the case wasn't quite wrapped up, they still had more additional work to do with the sea
that the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in libya was a terrorist strike, even though that wasn't how the obama administration initially described it publicly. representative peter king of new york said petraeus had briefed the house intelligence committee on september 14, and he does not recall petraeus being so positive at the time that it was a terrorist attack. he thought all along that he made it clear there was terrorist involvement, king said. that was not my recollection. so senator feinstien, did petraeus contradict himself or has he contradicted the white house's version of events? >> we have a transcript of that meeting on that day. and petraeus very clearly said that it was a terrorist attack. and outlined who he thought might be involved in it. so any -- >> this is right after the attack? >> that's the day after the attack. i think there's no question about it. what has concerned me about this is really the politicization of a public statement that was put out by the entire intelligence committee, which susan rice on the 16th, who was asked to go before the people and use
resignation, wants to bring in msnbc military analyst, retired u.s. army colonel, jack jacobs. colonel jack, thanks for sticking around. first of all, let's start with where vic left off. what do you make of the timing of all of this? >> i don't see anything untoward about this. i think the fbi investigated as quickly as they could. i think as soon as they found something out, they talked to him. there was a bit of a delay in notifying the president. but that's something else altogether. you were asking about gen ben ghazi, do you want to talk benghazi? >> yeah. >> you've been on the ground. you know, you know what it's like to be on the ground when your intelligence is no good, i think from a military standpoint, i don't think it made any sense whatsoever to send a quick reaction force, which would neither be quick, nor would it necessarily be able to react to what was on the ground. by that time, anyway, ambassador stevens was dead. >> let's talk about from a personal standpoint. i know that you have known david petraeus and his wife, holly, for about the same length of time that they've
like. check out this graph of u.s. government from google. these are requests that don't require warrants and this doesn't include the security related requests not disclosed. for awhile, i thought the combination of these trends, the u bik wiity of technology was pushing us to a future where citizens would be unable to keep their secrets while the government keeps its secrets. i feared it would end up totally exposed to each other and the state. the state and its doing and what it's doing in our name would be a mystery. then miraculously, but also inevitably, they collided with each other in the petraeus affair. the four-star general's communications with broadwell reveal a lot of mundane personal failings. really, it seems not anything scandalous as far as the public's fear goes. the only possible scandal, as far as i can tell, is the conditions which the fbi came to read the private e-mails of petraeus and broadwell. the investigation began because jill kelley, an acquaintance of petraeus served as the unpaid liaison in tampa received hostile e-mails that chastised her for fli
," an iran fighter jet fired on a u.s. drone last week. >> that's reassuring. >> officials say the slow-moving drone never entered iranian territory and was neither hit nor damaged. the u.s. issued a formal warning that it will defend its military assets. >> "arizona republic," a dramatic scene yesterday gabby giffords and her husband came face to face with jared loughner. loughner has been sentenced to seven life terms in prison, ending his federal case. he can still be tried in arizona state court, but local authorities say this is unlikely. >> and from our parade of papers, "the richmond times dispatch," former dnc chairman terry mcauliffe announced he'll run for governor of virginia in 2013. mcauliffe may face former governor and current u.s. senator mark warner during the state's democratic primary. warner has not ruled out a return saying he's going to make that decision by thanksgiving. and on the cover of this week's "parade" magazine, how to throw the perfect holiday get-together with the cast of "the chew." we also have a quick update on the campaign to raise money for epileps
. you know, "u.s. news & world report" had a cover talking about the end of the democratic party. you remember 1980. >> yeah, yeah. >> people were saying the same thing about the end of the democratic party. two years later in 1982, democrats had a massive landslide victory. the same thing happened in 1996. bill clinton got elected. these things come and go. parties adjust. and this republican party will adjust. >> it needs to adjust. >> remember, two years ago -- and i hate to say this -- i've been saying this for four years -- two years ago republicans picked up historic gains in off-year elections. and i said yeah, we did that in 1994. then we lost in 1996. and the same thing has happened. the question is, willie, do they adjust? alec baldwin had a hilarious quote. did you see this quote? >> yeah. which one? >> yeah. what is the exact quote? >> something you like you know your party's in trouble -- >> when you ask -- >> how did the rape guy do, and you have to say "which one?" >> which one? i can't hammer this home enough. i've done it for four years. there is a difference between
chronicle," oil giant bp has been handed the largest ever criminal fine in u.s. history. in connection with the 2010 oil rig explosion that killed 11 people and triggered a massive spill in the gulf of mexico. two employees face involuntary manslaughter charges. bp will plead guilty to the deaths and for lying over how much oil was really gushing out of the deep water horizon. bp made a record $25.8 billion in profits last year. >>> "the indianapolis star," hostess is expected to announce today whether it will shutter operations permanently. the move would result in the loss of 18,000 jobs, and the company could begin to liquidate itself in bankruptcy court. right now striking workers are preventing production over their objections to a contract offering benefit and wage cuts. hostess makes iconic baked goods from twinkies to ding dongs to wonder bread, and it could all go away today. >> be careful what you -- this is a great company. i know you don't love ding dongs and twinkies, but many people do. >> a lot of jobs at stake. >> yes. >> i know it's complicated, for sure. no snarky com
of the world bank. and bob zoellick said the u.s. is one debt deal away from cementing its role as the leading economic power in the world for the next 25 years. that's how high the stakes are. and business has to be a big part of persuading all sides to take a little pain and get this zbloen as everybody is paying their fair share, the extension of the tax cuts for those making $250,000 has been one of the sticking points so far. but conservative voices were brought up, like bill crystal, made a glare og mission over the weekend that i want to point out to everybody. >> it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on million nairs. it really won't, i don't think. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000. the republican party is going to fall to -- >> throw it on the hollywood libs. tax the hell out of them. get those hollywood libs. but now that he's hut in it that frame of mind and people can see, we're going to go after those hollywood liberals, tax them, get their movie money, do you think members of your party woul
and spending cuts that if unaddressed could send the u.s. back into a recession. now, if we do dive over this cliff, here's what could happen. first it could cost the average household about $3500 in taxes. second the economy, it could lose 800,000 jobs. and, third, for those already out of work, 2.1 million americans would lose unemployment benefits and right now we're 47 days away from the deadline to prevent all of that. joining me from columbia, south carolina, msnbc contributor jimmy williams with more on why it matters. so, jimmy, "usa today" did this great chart that breaks it all down, the spending or these tax and spending changes go into effect, because americans across the board are going to be affected on this from the top 1% to the nation's poorest so how likely is it that this will happen? >> well, i don't think it's likely that it happens because i think both sides have a hell of a lot to lose. the president having just come off a re-election and gaining seats in the house and the senate, i think that he has political capital. he would lose a lot of that capital if, in fac
-pacific as the most rapidly growing and dynamic region in the world. the president will focus on expanding u.s. trade and economic ties in the region, supporting democracy and human rights and working through regional institutions to assure they abide by rules of the road. now, you know, as part of his broader agenda the president has focused on expanding our presence in asia. the positive economic impact of dpo doing that will be felt for yearsing ing tto come and is e for the american economy in the 21st century. this is important work that needs to be done. there are meetings at the east asia summit and a meeting with the association of southeast asian nations he'll participate in. that's something he looks forward to. >> a question on treasury secretary geithner's future. has he agreed to stay on through the fiscal cliff negotiations until they're completed and perhaps until a successor is confirmed? >> secretary geithner has indicated that he'll stay on through inauguration, and he will be, obviously, a key participant in the negotiations around the so-called fiscal cliff issues. so the preside
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